Andy Brett

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Monday 27th October 2014


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Andy Brett

17:37 PM, 29th October 2014, About 7 years ago

Do we need new Tenancy Agreements - Partner moving in and out of properties

Reply to the comment left by "r01 " at "29/10/2014 - 14:42":

Thanks r01 for your comments. After 7 years as landlords letting to a mixture of working and benefits families we have, until this year, been very happy to provide good quality homes to people that appreciate them, look after them, and more importantly ensure the rent is paid. A lot was done by trust and gut feeling about people but regrettably this year we have had a few issues that are making us more cynical about the intentions of people on benefits, hence the request for advice.

Re the husband moving out, as said in the post, our understanding is that he will move in with his sick mother in another area. They are on benefits and, while it could be a ruse to claim benefits in two areas, we knew that the mother was ill when they took up the tenancy 5 months ago. If we make any changes we would inform the local DSS. You never know, it may be genuine!
We were wary of altering the existing TA but thought we would be OK with a letter outlining the change of circumstance (and copying that to the local DSS). From other comments it seems even this could be dangerous so we may leave it for another month and set up a new ASTA depending on the circumstances at the time.

Re the boyfriend in the second house, you are right to question the circumstances, which we are also doing, and also why we are seeking advice. Yes she is a single mum, on full benefits, and only 3 months into a 6-month ASTA so alarm bells are ringing. Because of her previous domestic violence issue we are in close contact with the council/DSS regarding this tenant. They were actively involved with re-homing her as our tenant and pay us directly, so we would only make any changes with their understanding and approval.
Another poster has suggested making him a 'permitted occupier' rather than adding him as a tenant. This could be a possibility but if he is permitted to occupy for a lengthy period could he then assume some tenancy rights? We haven't yet vetted this person but will obviously be very careful and keep the DSS informed.... Read More

Andy Brett

17:00 PM, 29th October 2014, About 7 years ago

Do we need new Tenancy Agreements - Partner moving in and out of properties

Reply to the comment left by "Andrew Turner" at "29/10/2014 - 12:25":

Thanks Andrew for your comments. Yes the first tenants are 5 months into a 6 month ASTA and we were nervous of changing that. We're still thinking that a letter acknowledging the change in circumstances may be OK but would also copy that to the DSS as they are on full benefits. Might be better still to wait another month and renew the ASTA then according to the prevailing situation.
Re the boyfriend issue on the second house, I like the sound of the 'permitted occupier' rather than adding him as a tenant. We haven't yet vetted this person. Because of the tenant's previous domestic violence issue we are in close contact with the council/DSS regarding this tenant. They were actively involved with re-homing her as our tenant and pay us directly, so we would only make any changes with their understanding and approval. She is only 3 months into the ASTA.... Read More

Andy Brett

16:23 PM, 29th October 2014, About 7 years ago

Do we need new Tenancy Agreements - Partner moving in and out of properties

Reply to the comment left by "Michael Barnes" at "29/10/2014 - 12:20":

Thanks Mike for your comments. Our understanding is as said in the post, (that the husband will move in with his sick mother in another area). They are on benefits and, while it could be a ruse to claim benefits in two areas, we knew that the mother was ill when they took up the tenancy 5 months ago. We were wary of altering the existing TA but thought we would be OK with a letter outlining the change of circumstance (and copying that to the local DSS). From other comments it seems even this could be dangerous so we may leave it for another month and set up a new ASTA depending on the circumstances at the time.... Read More