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15:34 PM, 19th July 2019, About 2 years ago

Smart Meters - Beware and advice needed?

Reply to the comment left by Dennis Leverett at 19/07/2019 - 14:56
Hi Dennis,

I understand you aren't having a go at me, and I hope you understand I was just giving you the information that I have in order to help you.

We are Gas Safe, we take the exams and get given our Gas Safe ID card. I would upload mine for you to see however I don't want to reveal my name, gas Safe number etc. As far as altering the gas without your permission, we have to change the metered 'technically' every 15 years or so, (although in real world terms this doesn't happen) however I am not clued up about the regulations on whether we need permission from the landlord if we are changing the meter to smart instead of dumb again.
I believe tenancy agreements state to be notified of change of supplier, but I am not sure if they state anything about meters.
Yes we do conduct tightness tests before and after the meter installation because we are interupting the gas supply. We do not issue any certificate for any work completed other than a checklist that confirms everything is okay, unless a safety notice is left.
In regards to the flue, my knowledge is that if a flue travels through a compartment then it needs to be sealed either side, whether that is actually a regulation or just a rule from the supplier, I couldn't say.
As I said before, if they were concerned about it, and they weren't allowed to cap it off, then they would have called your local gas transporter. Does the letter give any sanctions i.e. if you do not respond we will disconnect your gas supply etc? If not, I wouldn't worry about it and would assume they are just covering their bums in case something ever goes wrong.... Read More


12:01 PM, 19th July 2019, About 2 years ago

Smart Meters - Beware and advice needed?

Hi Dennis,

I actually fit smart meters so I may be able to provide some insight to the issue.

First of all, all meter fitters, regardless of which company they work for, are trained as dual fuel, and have been for many years now.
To fit the smart meter display (the plug in device), we have to change both the electric and gas meters to smart meters. This involves removing the gas meter, which in turn interupts the gas supply, which means we have to check all gas appliances for safety. This is why they were looking at your appliances in the first place.
However, our qualifications and scope of work only allows us to complete a visual check of the appliance, and so we may visually pick up issues that are deemed 'immediately dangerous', but more in depth testing (which we can not conduct) may show there is no issue. This is approved by Gas Safe and therefore no company will pay compensation if they disconnect your appliances when it is not necessary.

Thirdly, the issue that Eon have flagged up is actually only deemed as 'Not to current standards', which doesn't actually exist anymore, the only thing they would need to do is verbally inform you that it's not right, and whether you have it sorted or not is up to you.

In regards to the letter you received, I would ignore it if you have a valid Gas Safety Certificate. If the appliance was deemed 'immediately dangerous', and your tenant refused to have the boiler capped off, they legally would have had to call National Grid, or the local Gas Transporter, for them to come and inspect it and make the decision to cap the boiler or not.

TLDR; Don't worry about it, the Gas Safety Certificate covers you. Yes all meter engineers are gas Safe.... Read More